MASS ADOPTS SIGN UPS

[WINDCLAN]

WINDCLAN'S MASS ADOPTS SIGN UP ╱ UPDATED 02.01.2025
Welcome to WindClan's mass adopts sign up! Post here if you'd like your adopts to be added to our Character Connections thread.

RULES / GUIDELINES:

01. All characters must already be a part of WindClan, or have a plot to join WindClan soon.
02. Adopts will be accepted on a first come first served basis by the HP team, not by the person providing the relations. If it's something you want more control over, we suggest making a thread separate from our mass adopts.
03. Genetics must be realistic. Please be sure to check with a geneticist on our main Discord server!​

FORM:

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[b]Slots:[/b] ANSWER
[b]Parents:[/b] ANSWER
[b]Relations:[/b] ANSWER
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] ANSWER
[b]Genetics:[/b] ANSWER
[b]Rules:[/b] ANSWER
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] ANSWER
[b]Other:[/b] ANSWER
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Please remember to add the code tags in your form! They're there to make it easier for us to move these to the actual mass adopt thread.

If you have any questions or concerns, please visit the WindClan Discord to get in touch with our HP team!

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[beatles]

[b]Slots:[/b] 2
[b]Parents:[/b] Snakehiss x Berrysnap
[b]Relations:[/b] Littermates to Rowanpaw and Viperpaw
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 12 moons, ages realistically on the 17th
[b]Genetics:[/b] 
Sire: SH black w/ low white, vitiligo ( carrying longhair )
Dam: SH tortoiseshell w/ low white, polydactyl

— amab kits can be black or red tabby
— afab kits can be black or tortoiseshell
— kits will be shorthaired
— kits can have no white, low white, or high white
— kits without white can have any realistic eye color besides blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
— red-based kits will mask black
— kits may or may not carry longhair
— kits may or may not have polydactyl
— kits may or may not have vitiligo that will develop into adulthood

[b]Rules:[/b] 
— Please refer to the litter thread ( linked below ) for a naming list, as Snakehiss would have been rather particular.
— Rehoming may occur after a month of inactivity
— No killing off right away, preferably communicate major angst plots with Beatles!

[b]Desired Activity:[/b] Casual and able to maintain census status
[b]Other:[/b] These are the kits of former Sootstar deputy, Snakehiss, and former loyalist, Berrysnap. Berrysnap gave these kits up after birth ( save for their secret DuskClanner brother, Privetfrost ) and Snakehiss was present ( minimally ) for the first five moons of their lives. Snakehiss was exiled from the clan shortly before they were apprenticed. [url=https://tabbytales.net/threads/snakehiss-x-berrysnap-%E2%80%94-windclan-kit-rehome-closed.13247/]Litter thread is here[/url] for naming list and other information.

 

[Kitty-Kat-]

[b]Slots:[/b] One 
[b]Parents:[/b] NPC x NPC gen 01 
[b]Relations:[/b] Backwritten Friend to Periwinklebreeze [plot character] 
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] between 22-27 moons old as of 06/01, aging real time on the first of each month 
[b]Genetics:[/b] 
- character comes with two options of preset appearance 
- character must be AFAB (any identity allowed) 
- longhair or shorthair allowed 
- genetics listed are what they must breed as; chimeras, stylization, and some minor changes (additional carries/recessives) are allowed but the base genetics must stay the same 
 EITHER:
- black w/ low white, polydactyly (carrying dilute, point)
- blue tabby w/ low white (carrying solid, sepia)
[b]Rules:[/b] 
- activity requirement must be maintained. rehoming of this slot (but not the character) will be done as necessary should activity requirements not be met for two months consecutively. 
- this character is a plot character. beside the main plot of peri having a friend to lean on, there are open ended opportunities for smaller plots within their friendship, and (should the character remain active in [u]Dec 2025[/u]) they will be given opportunity to take part in a major plot. details on the major plot can/will be dm'd after adoption, but participation is up to user discretion. 
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] at least 2 posts per month unless an IA notice is given.
[b]Other:[/b] This character is a back written friend to Periwinklebreeze. Once on good terms as apprentices, Peri going on the journey right after getting his warrior name threw a wrench in things, as Peri came back quite changed and then Windclan was thrown into a state of rebellion.  The dynamic had shifted, changed again and again without time to adjust, and the two were left floundering. With the death of Nightingalecry he and y/c grow closer once more - his need for a shoulder to lean (and cry) on driving them to rekindle their friendship. Things are likely still a bit awkward between them, because neither of them are the same kits they once were - but it doesn't make them any less fond of each other as they rebuild their trust and friendship.

 

[Kedamono]

[b]Slots:[/b] 4
[b]Parents:[/b] Ravencry x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] Younger siblings to Firefang, Smokestep, and Cinder(blank)
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 2 Moons (age realistically on the 3rd of every month)
[b]Genetics:[/b]
Sire: SH black smoke low white (masking mackerel tabby; carrying non-silver, classic tabby)
Dam: SH tortoiseshell low white (masking classic tabby)
Toms can be black, black smoke, red tabby, or red cameo
Mollies can be black, black smoke, tortoiseshell, or tortie smoke
- kits will be shorthaired
- kits will have low white
- kits can have any realistic eye color barring blue
- kits will mask either the mackerel tabby pattern or classic tabby pattern
- silver kits will carry non-silver; kits masking the mackerel tabby pattern will carry the classic tabby pattern
[b]Rules:[/b] - I would like for the kits to have storm/weather based names (as they'll be named for the storm that extinguished the fire): Lightning, Thunder, Rain, Storm, Gust, Gale, Hail, Sleet, surge, etc
- Free reign for the most part (though I'd like to be informed with any death/maiming plots while they're kits)
- Absolutely can be angsty especially if they fail at being perfect kits in their moms eyes
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] For early moons casual is all good! Would of course like increased activity when they get older
[b]Other:[/b] These kits were born almost directly following the fire to a seasoned queen named Ravencry. Who will raise these kits to be the best of the best, they're mother is strict and will likely be hard on them if they're weak or don't rise to her expectations. It's likely that if they don't when they're apprentices they will be cut off and essentially disowned like Firefang was. These kits are aware of their older littermates including Firefang (who avoids the nursery whenever she can).

[b]Slots:[/b] 1 (Ravencry)
[b]Parents:[/b] NPC x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] Firefang's mom, also the mother to Smokestep, Cinder(blank), and the younger litter, also likely has mothered other unnamed litters as a rogue
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 59 moons ages every 13th realistically
[b]Genetics:[/b] SH tortoiseshell low white (masking classic tabby)
[b]Rules:[/b] - Free reign you can do mostly whatever you want with her
- Would like to keep her personality harsh, open to development of course but it's unlikely she'd ever become a good person/mom
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] Active if possible! Not insanely but would like to see her around
[b]Other:[/b] A seasoned queen of Windclan. Formerly a rogue who wandered near the territories and particularly the moors - joined Windclan shortly after its founding with her recently born kits and raised them to be loyal windclan warriors (and tunnelers). Disowned her daughter Firefang when she failed to be the ladder and put shame on her family. Despite vocally being a supporter of Sootstar throughout her kits early lives once she saw the rising conflict in her clan she became a "rebel" not for believing or caring for their cause but because she felt they were more likely to win. Has been keeping her head down, to prove her loyalty she'd decided to have another litter to make the clan stronger in numbers. The father of both of her litters is assumed to be a kittypet, but she is very unlikely to reveal the identity of her kits father.

[b]Slots:[/b] 1 Cinder(blank)
[b]Parents:[/b] Ravencry x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] Littermate to Firefang and Smokestep
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 25 Moons ages every 10th
[b]Genetics:[/b]
Sire: SH black smoke low white (masking mackerel tabby; carrying non-silver, classic tabby)
Dam: SH tortoiseshell low white (masking classic tabby)
Toms can be black, black smoke, red tabby, or red cameo
Mollies can be black, black smoke, tortoiseshell, or tortie smoke
- kits will be shorthaired
- kits will have low white
- kits can have any realistic eye color barring blue
- kits will mask either the mackerel tabby pattern or classic tabby pattern
- silver kits will carry non-silver; kits masking the mackerel tabby pattern will carry the classic tabby pattern
[b]Rules:[/b] - can have any suffix chosen but would prefer them to keep the prefix cinder
- they were AMAB
- will be a tunneler
- free reign for the most part but would like to be informed if you kill them off
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] active preferably; like to see them monthly
[b]Other:[/b] Firefang's other sibling; a dutiful and likely talented tunneler. Who worked even hard to be the best he could and make his mom proud after the incident that had Smokestep injured and Firefang reassigned to being a moorrunner (and cut off by their mother). Has kept his head down most of their life and does as they're told, however put their lot in with the rebels during the rebellion alongside their mom. Mostly a blank slate go wild with their personality!

 

[CELANDINEPAW]

[b]Slots:[/b] 3
[b]Parents:[/b] NPC x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] Littermates to Celandinepaw
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 10 Moons / Ages realistically every 14th of the month
[b]Genetics:[/b]
Toms can be black, black tabby, blue, blue tabby, chocolate, chocolate tabby, lilac, lilac tabby, red tabby, or cream tabby
Mollies can be black, black tabby, blue, blue tabby, chocolate, chocolate tabby, lilac, lilac tabby, tortoiseshell, torbie, blue tortie, blue torbie, chocolate tortie, chocolate torbie, lilac tortie, or lilac torbie
- kits can be longhaired or shorthaired
- kits can have no white, low white, or high white
- kits without white can have any realistic eye color barring blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
- tabby kits will display the spotted tabby pattern or broken mackerel tabby pattern; solid kits will mask either tabby pattern
- red kits will mask black, black tabby, chocolate, or chocolate tabby
- cream kits will mask blue, blue tabby, lilac, or lilac tabby
- black-based kits will carry chocolate; shorthaired kits will carry longhaired, tabby kits will carry solid; non-dilute kits will carry dilute
[b]Rules:[/b] 
- Must stay in Windclan unless there is a good plot reason (please communicate with Tempest!)
- Any (natural) name is allowed! Brownie points for names of moorland flowers, as their mother would have considered them a symbol of luck, rejuvenation, and prosperity.
- If there are any more questions, please reach out to Tempest (Discord: naruk4mi) for anything!
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] Any (Active or casual)
[b]Other:[/b] Would have been barncats / mousers that would have followed Celandinepaw into Windclan after she regaled them with tales from the moorlands.

 

[Deidre]

[b]Slots:[/b] 3
[b]Parents:[/b] npc x npc - real mother passed away during birth, father is unknown. 
[b]Relations:[/b] Orchidwing- Foster mom. Gentle, caring, naive. Faithful. 
Darkwhisker- Orchidwings mate. Thoughtful, quiet, judgemental.
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 3 moons, ages every 21st! 
[b]Genetics:[/b] Sire: SH blue tabby (carrying longhair, solid)
Dam: LH white (masking black; carrying dilute)

Kits can be black, blue, black tabby, blue tabby, or white masking any of those
- kits can be shorthaired or longhaired
- non-white kits will have no white; white kits will mask no white
- non-white kits can have any realistic eye color besides blue; white kits can have any realistic eye color 
- white kits with one or two blue eyes have a higher risk of deafness on side(s) with blue eye
- shorthaired kits will carry longhair; tabbies will carry solid; non-dilute kits will carry dilute
[b]Rules:[/b] Their foster parents , especially their mom is caring, so non angsty names are preferred! 
Their foster dad can be tough on them, this is undecided, but I don't mind if so! 
I'd prefer they stay in Windclan! 
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] 5 posts min a month is preferred, bullkit is going to be pretty active! 
[b]Other:[/b] ANSWER

 

[Kitty-Kat-]

[b]Slots:[/b] 4
[b]Parents:[/b] NPC x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] littermates to @Daisywatcher. 
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 22 moons (as of November 1st) aging realtime 
[b]Genetics:[/b] 
Sire: LH cream tabby w/ low white (masking black)
Dam: LH tortoiseshell w/ low white (carrying dilute)

Toms can be black, blue, red tabby, or cream tabby
She-cats can be tortoiseshell, blue tortoiseshell, red tabby, or cream tabby
- kits will be longhaired
- kits can have no white, low white, or high white
- kits without white can have any realistic eye color besides blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
- red-based kits will mask black
- non-dilute kits will carry dilute

[b]Rules:[/b] 
- I reserve the right to rehome inactive characters if they've made less then 30 posts by time of inactivity 
- must stay in windclan until death (excluding any temporary or clan-wide plots should they occur) 
- cannot be killed off until they've either been posted with 30 times of active for 3 months irl 
- any names are allowed, but they would be given with [u]good intentions[/u] (ie. strange/odd names such as worm-, fox-, rat-, etc. are allowed as long as the intention behind giving them wasn't mean spirited) 
- there is [u]one[/u] [url=https://toyhou.se/28570393.check-genetics]hypokit[/url] available FCFS. if used design will be transfered via TH after 30 posts 
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] any 
[b]Other:[/b] Would have been born and raised in windclan, with parents who were former moor-cats before the clans existed. Grew up believing in the 'earth' (dirt) being 'the mother' of all life as well as typical starclan traditions, but can believe (or not believe) in either. Parents died during the loyalist/rebelion battles.

 

[beatles]

[b]Slots:[/b] 2
[b]Parents:[/b] Snakehiss x Berrysnap
[b]Relations:[/b] Littermates to Rowanpaw and Viperpaw
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 12 moons, ages realistically on the 17th
[b]Genetics:[/b] 
Sire: SH black w/ low white, vitiligo ( carrying longhair )
Dam: SH tortoiseshell w/ low white, polydactyl

— amab kits can be black or red tabby
— afab kits can be black or tortoiseshell
— kits will be shorthaired
— kits can have no white, low white, or high white
— kits without white can have any realistic eye color besides blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
— red-based kits will mask black
— kits may or may not carry longhair
— kits may or may not have polydactyl
— kits may or may not have vitiligo that will develop into adulthood

[b]Rules:[/b] 
— Please refer to the litter thread ( linked below ) for a naming list, as Snakehiss would have been rather particular.
— Rehoming may occur after a month of inactivity
— No killing off right away, preferably communicate major angst plots with Beatles!

[b]Desired Activity:[/b] Casual and able to maintain census status
[b]Other:[/b] These are the kits of former Sootstar deputy, Snakehiss, and former loyalist, Berrysnap. Berrysnap gave these kits up after birth ( save for their secret DuskClanner brother, Privetfrost ) and Snakehiss was present ( minimally ) for the first five moons of their lives. Snakehiss was exiled from the clan shortly before they were apprenticed. [url=https://tabbytales.net/threads/snakehiss-x-berrysnap-%E2%80%94-windclan-kit-rehome-closed.13247/]Litter thread is here[/url] for naming list and other information.

This form has been updated! Could this be added up to the current mass adopts please?

 

[foxlore]

[b]Slots:[/b] 3
[b]Parents:[/b] npc x npc - real mother passed away during birth, father is unknown. 
[b]Relations:[/b] Orchidwing- Foster mom. Gentle, caring, naive. Faithful. 
Darkwhisker- Orchidwings mate. Thoughtful, quiet, judgemental.
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 3 moons, ages every 21st! 
[b]Genetics:[/b] Sire: SH blue tabby (carrying longhair, solid)
Dam: LH white (masking black; carrying dilute)

Kits can be black, blue, black tabby, blue tabby, or white masking any of those
- kits can be shorthaired or longhaired
- non-white kits will have no white; white kits will mask no white
- non-white kits can have any realistic eye color besides blue; white kits can have any realistic eye color 
- white kits with one or two blue eyes have a higher risk of deafness on side(s) with blue eye
- shorthaired kits will carry longhair; tabbies will carry solid; non-dilute kits will carry dilute
[b]Rules:[/b] Their foster parents , especially their mom is caring, so non angsty names are preferred! 
Their foster dad can be tough on them, this is undecided, but I don't mind if so! 
I'd prefer they stay in Windclan! 
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] 5 posts min a month is preferred, bullkit is going to be pretty active! 
[b]Other:[/b] ANSWER

[b]Slots:[/b] 4
[b]Parents:[/b] NPC x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] littermates to @Daisywatcher. 
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 22 moons (as of November 1st) aging realtime 
[b]Genetics:[/b] 
Sire: LH cream tabby w/ low white (masking black)
Dam: LH tortoiseshell w/ low white (carrying dilute)

Toms can be black, blue, red tabby, or cream tabby
She-cats can be tortoiseshell, blue tortoiseshell, red tabby, or cream tabby
- kits will be longhaired
- kits can have no white, low white, or high white
- kits without white can have any realistic eye color besides blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
- red-based kits will mask black
- non-dilute kits will carry dilute

[b]Rules:[/b] 
- I reserve the right to rehome inactive characters if they've made less then 30 posts by time of inactivity 
- must stay in windclan until death (excluding any temporary or clan-wide plots should they occur) 
- cannot be killed off until they've either been posted with 30 times of active for 3 months irl 
- any names are allowed, but they would be given with [u]good intentions[/u] (ie. strange/odd names such as worm-, fox-, rat-, etc. are allowed as long as the intention behind giving them wasn't mean spirited) 
- there is [u]one[/u] [url=https://toyhou.se/28570393.check-genetics]hypokit[/url] available FCFS. if used design will be transfered via TH after 30 posts 
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] any 
[b]Other:[/b] Would have been born and raised in windclan, with parents who were former moor-cats before the clans existed. Grew up believing in the 'earth' (dirt) being 'the mother' of all life as well as typical starclan traditions, but can believe (or not believe) in either. Parents died during the loyalist/rebelion battles.

This form has been updated! Could this be added up to the current mass adopts please?

These have all been added!!

 

[vulture]

[b]Slots:[/b] 1
[b]Parents:[/b] NPC x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] Littermate to Shaggydog
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 66 moons, ages 3rd of each month. Born May 3, 2019.
[b]Genetics:[/b] 
Sire: LH black w/ low white (carrying cinnamon, dilute)
Dam: SH fawn tabby w/ low white, vitiligo (carrying longhair, solid)

Kits can be black, black tabby, cinnamon, cinnamon tabby, blue, blue tabby, fawn, or fawn tabby
- kits can be shorthaired or longhaired
- kits can have no white, low white, or high white
- kits without white can have any realistic eye color besides blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
- kits may or may not have vitiligo that develops in adulthood 
- shorthaired kits will carry longhair; tabbies will carry solid; black-based kits will carry cinnamon; non-dilute kits will carry dilute
[b]Rules:[/b]
- Born with the name Tick. Name can be changed but would have been this through their time in the rogue group.
- Joined when the rogue group merged with the Clan under Sootstar's leadership.
- Right is reserved to rehome if you fall inactive with less than 20 posts. 
- Do not kill them off immediately.
- Stay in WindClan with them for at least six months real time. 
- Permitted to call Shaggydog either by current or by birth name (Mange).
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] 5+ posts per month
[b]Other:[/b] N/A

[b]Slots:[/b] 2
[b]Parents:[/b] NPC x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] Younger siblings to Shaggydog
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 52 moons, ages 11th of each month. Born July 11th, 2020.
[b]Genetics:[/b] 
Sire: LH black w/ low white (carrying cinnamon, dilute)
Dam: SH fawn tabby w/ low white, vitiligo (carrying longhair, solid)

Kits can be black, black tabby, cinnamon, cinnamon tabby, blue, blue tabby, fawn, or fawn tabby
- kits can be shorthaired or longhaired
- kits can have no white, low white, or high white
- kits without white can have any realistic eye color besides blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
- kits may or may not have vitiligo that develops in adulthood 
- shorthaired kits will carry longhair; tabbies will carry solid; black-based kits will carry cinnamon; non-dilute kits will carry dilute
[b]Rules:[/b] 
- Born with the names Chomp and Hiss. Name can be changed but would have been this through their time in the rogue group.
- Joined when the rogue group merged with the Clan under Sootstar's leadership.
- Right is reserved to rehome if you fall inactive with less than 20 posts. 
- Do not kill them off immediately.
- Stay in WindClan with them for at least six months real time. 
- Permitted to call Shaggydog either by current or by birth name (Mange).
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] 5+ posts per month
[b]Other:[/b] N/A

 

[tempest]

[b]Slots:[/b] 3
[b]Parents:[/b] NPC x NPC
[b]Relations:[/b] Littermates to Celandinepaw
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 10 Moons / Ages realistically every 14th of the month
[b]Genetics:[/b]
Toms can be black, black tabby, blue, blue tabby, chocolate, chocolate tabby, lilac, lilac tabby, red tabby, or cream tabby
Mollies can be black, black tabby, blue, blue tabby, chocolate, chocolate tabby, lilac, lilac tabby, tortoiseshell, torbie, blue tortie, blue torbie, chocolate tortie, chocolate torbie, lilac tortie, or lilac torbie
- kits can be longhaired or shorthaired
- kits can have no white, low white, or high white
- kits without white can have any realistic eye color barring blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
- tabby kits will display the spotted tabby pattern or broken mackerel tabby pattern; solid kits will mask either tabby pattern
- red kits will mask black, black tabby, chocolate, or chocolate tabby
- cream kits will mask blue, blue tabby, lilac, or lilac tabby
- black-based kits will carry chocolate; shorthaired kits will carry longhaired, tabby kits will carry solid; non-dilute kits will carry dilute
[b]Rules:[/b] 
- Must stay in Windclan unless there is a good plot reason (please communicate with Tempest!)
- Any (natural) name is allowed! Brownie points for names of moorland flowers, as their mother would have considered them a symbol of luck, rejuvenation, and prosperity.
- If there are any more questions, please reach out to Tempest (Discord: naruk4mi) for anything!
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] Any (Active or casual)
[b]Other:[/b] Would have been barncats / mousers that would have followed Celandinepaw into Windclan after she regaled them with tales from the moorlands.

One more slot has opened (it opened a while ago oops I just am getting to it now)!

 

[bellus]

[b]Slots:[/b] 1
[b]Parents:[/b] mudstone (npc) x yarrowfang (npc)
[b]Relations:[/b] sedgepounce's older brother!
[b]Age & Aging Rules:[/b] 32 moons & real time aging (these characters are always 8 months older than sedgepounce!)
[b]Genetics:[/b]
kits can be black, blue, black tabby, blue tabby, black smoke, blue smoke, silver tabby, or blue silver tabby
- kits can be shorthaired or longhaired
- kits can have no white, low white, or high white
- kits without white can have any realistic eye color besides blue; kits with white can have any realistic eye color
[b]Rules:[/b] n/a
[b]Desired Activity:[/b] sedge is highly active, but casual is a-okay! :3c
[b]Other:[/b]
- this character is currently known as hawkswoop (amab black tabby). you're not required to use this name, but brownie points if you do / if you use something similar!!
- hawkswoop has two littermates named beetlenose and stormcloud
- they have the vibe of like..."older siblings with tons of expectations and weight on their shoulders" vs "younger sibling who could get away with murder." yarrowfang and mudstone were pretty strict growing up, so all the kids had a lot to live up to! sedge took that to heart as a young apprentice and started slacking off in the face of all his parents' expectations, which to his siblings seemed like he never got in trouble. i imagine that would've caused some conflict with his older siblings
- hawkswoop would have been a sootstar loyalist who allied with sunstar during the final battle. his exact reasoning for WHY is totally up to you, but yarrowfang and mudstone died as loyalists!
- pls feel free to hmu on discord to discuss sibling dynamics and plots and stuff!
- feel free to change up the character's gender / appearance if it calls to you < 3